Fauci and Rep. Jim Jordan Have Intense Exchange Over Protests Amid COVID-19: ‘I Didn’t Say That’

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) and Dr. Anthony Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, clashed on Friday over whether holding protests is making matters worse amid the coronavirus pandemic.

During his testimony before the House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus on Friday, Fauci was asked by Jordan if holding protests increases the spread of the coronavirus.

Fauci focused his answer on crowds in general rather than protests specifically.

“Crowding together particularly when you’re not wearing a mask contributes to the spread of the virus,” Fauci said.

Jordan pressed Fauci on his answer asking him if protesting should be limited.

Fauci said he is not in the position to “determine what the government can do in a forceful way.”

Watch their exchange below:

Jordan challenged Fauci on why it is okay to hold protests while it is not okay to attend church services.

Fauci fired back explaining he is not targeting anyone and reiterated avoiding any type of crowd is important in slowing the spread of the coronavirus.

“I’m not favoring anybody over anybody. I’m just making a statement that’s a broad statement that avoid crowds of any type no matter where you are because that leads to the acquisition and transmission,” Fauci said.

He added, “And I don’t judge one crowd versus another crowd. When you’re in a crowd particularly if you’re not wearing a mask that induces the spread.”

Jordan continued to hammer Fauci on whether protests should be limited.

“I don’t know how many times I can answer that,” Fauci said.

Fauci reiterated he is not going to “opine on limiting anything.”

Jordan accused Fauci of opining on other things.

The congressman sought to clarify Fauci’s position, as he claimed the leading health expert was indicating protests do not increase the spread of the coronavirus.

“I didn’t say that. You’re putting words in my mouth,” Fauci said.

The exchange came to a close as Jordan asked Fauci one last time if protests contribute to the spread.

Fauci doubled down on his response.

“I’m saying that crowds, wherever the crowds are, can give you an increased probability that there’s going to be acquisition and transmission,” Fauci said.

Responses

  1. Bob, there’s proof that boogaloo extremists have infiltrated BLM to cause trouble. It’s been reported by the Kansas City Star and other news outlets. Faux News won’t mention it therefore you know nothing about it.

  2. When I was younger, many decades back, conservatism concerned itself with arguable points, with policy ideas that confronted real facts, and an outlook on human affairs that included virtue, awareness of the limits of good intentions, realism in foreign policy, and restraint in government. It seemed sensible at the time; I wondered if I was a liberal or conservative, because it was difficult to decide among the possible merits.

    No more. Conservatism has disappeared and been replaced by the stimuli of the unreasoning mob, manipulated by populist politicians and media groups. Ideology has been taken over by racists, agitators, and utter crackpots. Fox News, and now the organizing power of the Internet, has provided an alternative reality in which all this idiocy can thrive. The very nature of truth is under question.

    As I write all these posts, I wonder how I can bring reason back to reality, and be a useful influence to somebody out in this wilderness. I feel like a wayward Christian out delivering bibles to sneering natives who will use them to start campfires. Maybe some day I’ll work through the websites of the unhinged left, where everybody will be calling me a fascist and misogynist and a willing dupe. Oh well. It’s the Lord’s work.

  3. Delbert, I have concluded that many IJR posters do not want to listen to the medical professionals. Drs. Fauci, Birx, Giroir, Redfield are medically trained public officials PAID by the taxpayers to advise US on public health issues. Instead they wish to look to a businessman/reality host, or right-wing radio hosts with ZERO medical training. How did following the advice of the “wannabes” work out for Herman Cain? We can not cure stupid.

  4. Dr. Birx is a medical professional and public servant, trying to serve the nation, within the limits that goofy Trump imposes on anybody in a visible position beneath him. I can see that she has to give way to the big fool in charge; if she didn’t, she’d be fired, and some friend of Jared, probably qualified by a background in medical device sales, would take over her job. If you let Trump do his worst, the nation will get sicker and more will die. Thus, she continues to serve, as does Fauci.

  5. fauci is a lying sack of excrement and shoud be replaced by anyone who is actually competent.

  6. Here’s what Fauci actually said (to an interviewer in Vanity Fair) when asked about some hypothetical person, going out of his mind on lockdown, who made a contact on Bumble or Tinder or Grindr, and was wondering if it would be okay to ask this one person over, just once:
    “You know, that’s tough. Because it’s what’s called relative risk. If you really feel that you don’t want to have any part of this virus, will you maintain six feet away, wear a mask, do all the things that we talk about in the guidelines? If you’re willing to take a risk—and you know, everybody has their own tolerance for risks—you could figure out if you want to meet somebody. And it depends on the level of the interaction that you want to have. If you’re looking for a friend, sit in a room and put a mask on, and you know, chat a bit. If you want to go a little bit more intimate, well, then that’s your choice regarding a risk. The one thing you don’t want to do is make sure the person is feeling well. Even though there’s a lot of asymptomatic infections, that’s one of the things that’s really troublesome. That if everybody transmitted would only transmit when they’re sick, that would be much easier. But what we’re seeing, which becomes really problematic, is that there’s a considerable amount of transmission from an asymptomatic person. And we’ve got well-documented now, you know, that situation on the nuclear carrier, the Roosevelt, USS Roosevelt, where hundreds of sailors have gotten infected from people that were not sick. That’s tough.”
    So, can you tell me if that’s an endorsement for Tinder dates?

  7. Ray, I’ve never heard of Federal SWAT teams (the kindest euphemism for Trump’s personal paramilitary force) going to cities to fire the local cops and take over security for Federal buildings. In my city we have a Federal Reserve bank branch, a US courthouse, a few Veterans and Social Security offices, and a bunch more Federal offices. The city cops take care of that stuff; always have.

  8. Hey, DAVID, I go one better, I HOPE YOU AND YOURS take a harder hit than that!!

    1. If that lie makes you feel good cheeto von shito, then keep on doing it. President Trump approval 50%, disapproval 46%. You flunked kindergarten idiot.

  9. It’s been proven that right wing extremists (ala Timothy McVeigh) are secretly infiltrating the peaceful protests in Seattle, Portland and elsewhere trying to stir the hornets nest.

    1. There is no such proof because it is antifa and blm doing the rioting, burning, murders and looting. There are NO right wing extremists. You just made that up out of thin air and want us to believe it is true. This is typical left wing radical lies and fake news. This the typical mode of operation tor the democRAT/communist/facist party.

  10. “Screwtape, I have no idea how any of what you said bears on anything. It’s like you’re just throwing up distractions.” Delbert

    You are catching on, Delbert. He distracts himself so much that he will frequently post a whole slew of comments in a row and few of them will be on topic or make any sense. I swear he must have learned how to toss his word salads from King Donald The Loser.

  11. “I’m not favoring anyone”.
    On April 15, 2020, Fauci endorses Tinder hookups, unbelievably.
    “You know, that’s tough,” replied the befuddled National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases director to the curveball. “Because that’s what’s called relative risk.”
    “If you’re willing to take a risk — and you know, everybody has their own tolerance for risks — you could figure out if you want to meet somebody,” said Fauci, who was named a candidate for People magazine’s “Sexiest Man Alive” award.
    “If you want to go a little bit more intimate, well, then that’s your choice regarding a risk.”

  12. Delbert: Aside from the Feds protecting their property, which is required by law, the cities ARE handling the riots. How is that working? After the Mayor of Portland marches with them and the Seattle Mayor calls it a ‘Summer of Love” fest and doesn’t allow the police to do their jobs, we have a continuation of anarchy, violence, crime, looting, murder, etc. Also, there are no defined “leaders” of the rioters. You could join them in the love fest and do some dirty work (that is what the leftists would call it) infiltrating on your own. Best choice – you may want to reconsider your ideas.

  13. Is there anymore doubt that deep stage Fauci is a Democrat shill and fraud?

  14. Screwtape,
    I have no idea how any of what you said bears on anything. It’s like you’re just throwing up distractions.

  15. I see this questioning of Fauci misdirected. The Government puts restrictions of types of gatherings, not Fauci. He did well be simply saying, “I’m not favoring anybody over anybody. I’m just making a statement that’s a broad statement that avoid crowds of any type no matter where you are because that leads to the acquisition and transmission,” Fauci said. Simple.

    1. Why did fauci tall us we should stay home and not go to church or get a haircut??? Why did he not say that we should no be rioting???? Just another radical left mouthpiece.

  16. The violent demonstrators, the rioters, are a small slice of the protests. They’re even a small slice of the Antifa movement. The best way to deal with them is through good police work, infiltration and intelligence, instead of holding nightly street fights, which is kind of what the violent boys are looking for.

    The best way for the federal government to support cities and urban peace is to let the cities handle it, and offer investigatory support and advice, and maybe money. It doesn’t help our democracy when the Feds organize a flying paramilitary force to usurp control and erase the divisions between our levels of government, especially when it’s done to gratify the political ambitions of a ruthless leader.

    I read comments about longing for a REAL law-and-order government. “Real” leaders of that streak beat the law and order drum so loudly and talk about such perils that the people go crazy waiting for something to be done, and then a wide variety of people suddenly get thrown in jail, and freedoms are curtailed, and the REAL leader becomes more powerful and invulnerable. It’s about disassembling a democracy and building an authoritarian government.

    Don’t let a handful of anarchists with clubs and matches make you lose all sense of proportion.

    1. BS. The violent rioters in Portland ARE the majority. I’ve noticed a distinct reduction in POC who are actively disassociating from the anarchistic Antifa.

      Look on the interwebz. See how many actual blacks (you know, people of color unlike yourself) who ACTIVELY defy the violence. Because they know they will bear blame when all is done.

      Tell us about how many of these you’ve actually watched or experienced. No? You’re another armchair BSer. Let’s put this in terms of ID politics or morons like the Genital. You don’t know sh*t about experiencing racism white boy.

  17. WELL, WELL, WELL! Isn’t it just an interesting coincidence that Remdesivir is made by Gilead and is the “CURE” for COVID-19 and here’s where it gets interesting: China holds the patent on the drug through an agreement with Gilead’s drug patent sharing subsidiary branch called UNITAID, who has an office near Wuhan, and you’ll never guess who are the main financial investors in UNITAID – none other than George Soros, Bill & Melinda Gates, and WHO.

    I know what you’re thinking! It’s just all a coincidence isn’t it! Oh, don’t let me forget the other coincidence, that Gilead and UNITAID were financial supporters of Hillary Clinton.

    Oh, silly me, I forgot one more coincidence, Fauci was the one authorizing millions to be sent to The Wuhan Institute of Virology specifically for the “study” of Corona viruses. I sure am thankful it’s all just coincidences! Nothing to see here, just keep moving along. WOW!

    No wonder Fauci slapped down hydroxychloroquine which has a 92% success rate. He was told to! Fauci’s wife not only works for Gilead she is NIH Chief of Bioethics and Human Subjects Research who rubber stamps exceptions to normal drug and vaccine testing…How is it possible ALL OF THE MEDIA on the planet missed this?

  18. Note that crossing state lines to riot is a fed offense.

    Any REAL leaders for law & order would make mass arrests and start taking IDs. The local Blue authorities might ignore breaking local laws, but there’s that fed backup.

    Of course, this requires leaders who actually hold their citizens higher than rioters.

  19. Hmm. How ’bout forcing the MSM doomsayers to differentiate between the infected and those who die?

    Notice how there’s literally no coverage of the asymptomatic, recovered, or those who did not die. THAT would be full-reporting.

  20. PHYLLIS, YOU REALLY CAN’T BE THAT IGNORANT! First there are the dem. mayors excusing it or out right ignoring it as it happens. There is short-shot delusional Jerrold Nadler claiming that the violet riots are a myth. EVERY SINGLE DEMOCRAT THAT DISMISSES THE “ROITS” AS “PEACEFUL PROTESTS” OR THAT STAYS NOTHING ABOUT THEM AT ALL IS ENCOURAGING THEM! IF YOU DELIBERATELY MISREPRESENT OR DO NOT CONDONE THEM THEN YOU ARE BY ABSTINENCE ENCOURAGING THEM!

    1. I wonder how Phil would react if rioters started destroying Pittsburgh and its businesses on a daily basis for over two months?

      On the other hand, Pittsburgh is not entirely Blue and has a large population of hunters with scoped rifles. Coincidence?

  21. Protesting is one thing. Rioting is not protesting – it is destruction. Democrats says silence is complicity, so if a democrat does not outright condemn such rioting, they are complicit in it. But here’s some outright support for the rioting:
    “A once in a lifetime opportunity,” is how Democratic Massachusetts Attorney General Maura Healey described the subsequent rioting. “Yes, America is burning, but that’s how forests grow.”
    Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., seemed unconcerned about store shelves being vacuumed by marauders nationwide. “Young people, they have a whole new definition for ‘looting,”
    Democratic Seattle City Council member Teresa Mosqueda said: “Colleagues, I hope we’re all saying we understand why that destruction happened and we understand why people are upset.”
    “But what I don’t want to hear is for our constituents to be told to be civil, not to be reactionary, to be told looting doesn’t solve anything,” said Mosqueda’s socialist colleague Tammy Morales. It does make me wonder why looting bothers people” she said.
    “Burn It All Down,” an Essence headline insisted. Yesha Callahan cited George Floyd, other unarmed blacks killed by cops, and the “insurmountable rate” of black COVID-19 fatalities. “Until these things disgust you, we riot, we protest and do whatever it takes to get your attention – including burning it all down.”
    In The New York Times – the so-called “Paper of Record” – reporter Nikole Hannah-Jones argued that “destroying property, which can be replaced, is not violence.”
    “Please, show me where it says that protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful,” CNN’s Chris Cuomo
    A headline from Slate.com is “Non-violence is an important tool for protests, but so is violence.”
    If you need more example Phyllis, just do your own search, you will find many more. How about you get sane and stop your blind loyalty to the democrat party?

    1. After witnessing the Portland riots firsthand they are about destruction, not protest.

      The entire “mass/herd” covered less than 5 blocks. A sensible approach would be for squads to herd, literally, them into 2 block, critical Wuflu infectious mass, then bring in the flamethrowers. After all, these a**holes like playing with fire.

      Realistically this would take more political will than any current leader could muster. It would give the Antifa protesters proof of their stupidity.

      On the plus side, it would set a precedent and deterrent for future brainless, destructive mobs. Because that’s EXACTLY what this is.

  22. WHO are the Democrats that Rep. Jordan claims “encourage people to riot and protest in the streets”? Make Congressman Jordan SANE again. He had the blind loyalty to Trump to have pushed Trump to take the virus seriously. Instead, he encouraged the opposite. The committee is to help the country have a better NATIONAL response to COVID for the anticipated second wave in the fall.—As it looks now, we won’t be thru the first wave.

    1. You must be blind and deaf syphilis. You don’t remember your party being against shutting gown flights from china and the eu. You haven’t seen or read about what MANY of your party has said about the rioters as everything burns and is destroyed. WOW, you really are a brainless piece of communist shit syphilis.

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